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Allan Carmichael WYLIE[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12]

Male 1833 - 1872


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  • Born  1833  ,,,Greenock, Renfrewshire,Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3, 4, 13, 14, 15, 16
    Gender  Male 
    Died  2 Nov 1872  Latitude 31 56 N Longitude 30 10 E,,, Suez Canal,, Egypt Find all individuals with events at this location  [17, 18, 19, 20, 21
    • In Nov 1872 Allan, Chief Engineer on the SS Virago, died at sea, of apoplexy at the age of 40.

      When he died he was a 2nd class passenger on the SS Bertha. The ship's surgeon James Petrie(?) was in close attendance. Allan died suddenly of apoplexy at noon. At 2.00 pm the body was dressed and prepared for interment. At 5.00 pm the commander (W.B. Lawrence of 38 Lister Street, Hull, certificate no. 74514) read the burial service and committed the body to the deep. Other witnesses were A Lonsdale, chief officer, and James Petrie, surgeon.

      Allan's death was registered on 28 Nov 1872 by SS Bertha on her return to London.

      (A family memory was that he died of appendicitis. Another family report was that he died off Port Said or Aden and was buried at sea by the captain of another ship.)

      On 3rd Nov the SS Bertha passed through Port Said heading for the Mediterranean. She arrived back in London on 21 November 1872 and (probably) to the Clyde by 19 December 1872. The SS Virago arrived on the 7 December.
    Buried  2 Nov 1872  at sea,,,, off Port Said, Egypt Find all individuals with events at this location  [18
    Notes 
    • on ship Bertha, official ship number 65274
      Date of posting in Lloyd’s List
      Abbreviated name/column numberfor that List
      Place name?
      Notes when checked in actual daily Lloyd’s Lists
      5 indistinct entries, then:

      17 Feb 1872
      Mlt 12
      Malta
      7 Feb, arrived from London.
      Left on 8 Feb for Bombay. Master Mills.
      23 Feb 1872
      Suez C 12
      27 Feb 1872
      Suez C 15
      26 Mar 1872
      Bom 25
      Bombay
      3 Mar arrived in Bombay from London.
      6 Apr 1872
      Bom 15
      Bombay
      Sailed from Bombay 26 Mar.
      9 Apr 1872
      19
      18 Mar
      16 Apr 1872
      23 Apr 1872
      Suez 13
      Suez Canal
      For Liverpool. Arrived in Suez from Bombay 12 Apr.
      23 Apr 1872
      Bom 23
      Bombay
      Sailed on Mar 26 from Bombay.
      4 May 1872
      Mlt 14
       Malta
      Sailed on 23 Apr from Malta .
      9 May 1872
      Liv 18
      Liverpool
      Arrived in Liverpool from Bombay.
      21 May 1872
      Liv
      Liverpool
       Sailed on 19 May from Liverpool for Cronstadt (port of St Petersburg).
      30 May 1872
      Cr 11
      Cronstadt
      On 25 May passed from Liverpool for Cronstadt.
      4 Jun 1872
      CR 12
      Cronstadt
       Arrived in Cronstadt on 29 May from Liverpool.
      15 Jun 1872
      ' 12
      Cronstadt
      On 9 Jun sailed from Cronstadt for London.
       18 Jun 1872
      Cpn
       Copenhagen
       14 June, passed from Copenhagen for London.
      19 Jun 1872
      Lo 4
       London
       18 Jun, arrived Gravesend from Cronstadt.
      10 Jul 1872
      20
       Cleared outwards Jul 9 for Colombo, Madras and Calcutta via Suez. Master Mills, B 1454, Sth WID, Gallatley.
      11 Jul 1872
      ?5
       Arrived Malta.
      31 Jul 1872
      Mlt 25
      Malta
       From London, left for Colombo.
      1 Aug 1872
      Suez C. 17
      Suez Canal
       30 Jul through Port Said, going south.
      31 Aug 1872
      SPEAKINGS 24
      3 Aug, bound south 25N 36E.
      24 Sep 1872
      Mad 28
      Madras
       27 Aug arrived in Madras from London (named as Virgo but still under Mills).
      27 Sep 1872
      Cal 18
      Calcutta
       Arrived Calcutta
      10 Oct 1872
      Cal 18
      Arrived Calcutta , Colombo and Madras (?)
      25 Oct 1872
      Suez 17
      Suez Canal
      This issue was missing from microfilm.
      29 Oct 1872
      Suez C 25
      Suez Canal
      Virago passed through Port Said on 27 October, alongside ships Elgin and Cella, heading for the Mediterranean.
      30 Nov 1872
      Gib
      Gibraltar
      On 27 Nov, from Calcutta to London.
      5 Dec 1872
      ?5
      5 Dec, coming from Calcutta, passed East of St Catherine's Point.
      7 Dec 1872
      Lo 3
      London
      On 6 Dec through Gravesend from Calcutta, under master Mills.
      SS Bertha had arrived back in London on 21 November 1872. SS Virago arrived on 7 December 1872. Allan Wylie's death was reported by the SS Bertha on 28 November.
    Person ID  I2221  Brian's Family Tree
    Last Modified  20 Apr 2010 

    Father  Claud WYLIE,   b. 1798, ,,,West Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 26 Jun 1866, 65, Rue-End Street,, Greenock, Refrewshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother  Janet CARMICHAEL,   b. 1801, ,,,Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Mar 1875, ,,Carnock St, Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  12 Aug 1821  Middle Church,, Paisley, Glasgow,, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F766  Group Sheet

    Family  Isabella Coventry ROBERTSON,   b. 2 Dec 1833, ,,,Glasgow,Lanarkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 Feb 1910, 14, Elsmere Avenue, Toxteth Bank, Liverpool,Lancashire,England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  28 Apr 1859  176, Kent Road, Anderston, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [22, 23, 24
    • In 1859 Isabella married Allan Wylie at her home in Glasgow on the same day as the registration of the birth of their first child, John Robertson Tannahill Wylie (he had been born at 8.00 am).. At that time her address was recorded as 176 Kent Road, Glasgow where the marriage took place. Allan was working as an engineer. His address was 401 St Vincent Street.
      WHEN, WHERE & HOW MARRIED?
      "On the 28th day of April 1859 at 176 Kent Road, Glasgow, marriage (after banns) was solemnised between us according to the forms(?) of the Free Church of Scotland"
      Signed by Allan Carmichael Wylie
      Signed Isabella Coventry Robertson, her X mark.
      AGE: Allan 25, Isabella 24.
      OFFICIATING MINISTER: James Henderson, minister of Free St Enoch's
      WITNESSES: James ......, David Tannahill
    Children 
     1. John Robertson Tannahill WYLIE,   b. 28 Apr 1859, 176, Kent Road, Anderston, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Oct 1937
     2. Elizabeth Mitchell Robertson WYLIE,   b. Jul 1861, ,,,Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. Janet Carmichael (Jeanette) WYLIE,   b. 5 May 1863, ,,,Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Mar 1889, 167, Orwell Road, Kirkdale, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. Isabella Coventry WYLIE,   b. Oct 1865, ,,West Derby, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1866, ,,West Derby, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    >5. Jane/Jeanie Tannahill WYLIE,   b. 19 Jun 1867, ,,,Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1 Oct 1916, 14 Ellesmere-avenue, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     6. Agnes Gilfillan WYLIE,   b. Between Oct 1869 and Dec 1869, ,,,Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 7 Sep 1871, ,,West Derby, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     7. Isabella Allan WYLIE,   b. 26 May 1872, ,Kirkdale, West Derby, Liverpool, Lancashire,England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1960, 168, Formosa Drive, Fazackerley, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Documents

    » Slide Show
    ALLAN & ISABELLA WYLIE Marriage Certificate
    ALLAN & ISABELLA WYLIE Marriage Certificate
    In 1859 Isabella married Allan Wylie at her home in Glasgow on the same day as the registration of the birth of their first child, John Robertson Tannahill Wylie (he had been born at 8.00 am). At that time her address was recorded as 176 Kent Road, Glasgow where the marriage took place. Allan was working as an engineer. His address was 401 St Vincent Street.
    WHEN, WHERE & HOW MARRIED?
    "On the 28th day of April 1859 at 176 Kent Road, Glasgow, marriage (after banns) was solemnised between us according to the forms(?) of the Free Church of Scotland"
    Signed by Allan Carmichael Wylie
    Signed Isabella Coventry Robertson, her X mark.
    AGE: Allan 25, Isabella 24.
    OFFICIATING MINISTER: James Henderson, minister of Free St Enoch's
    WITNESSES: James ......, David Tannahill
    The Royal Liverpool Seamen's Orphanage
    The Royal Liverpool Seamen's Orphanage
    J & J  Wylie Orphan records
    J & J Wylie Orphan records
    Last Modified  19 Apr 2010 
    Family ID  F698  Group Sheet

  • Photos
    SS China
    SS China
    Allan was 2nd engineer on China (official no. 437052)from 10 May 1865 to 10 Sep 1865. This was Cunard Line's CHINA of 1862.
    SS Oceanic 1871
    SS Oceanic 1871
    On 2 Mar 1871 Allan set out on RMS Oceanic for New York but returned to Liverpool that day. On 16 Mar 1871 the Oceanic set off again for New York on RMS Oceanic.

    Documents

    » Slide Show
    Allan Wylie d.1872
    Allan Wylie d.1872
    Latitude 31 56 N Longitude 30 10 E,,, Suez Canal,, Egypt
    In Nov 1872 Allan, Chief Engineer on the SS Virago, died at sea, of apoplexy at the age of 40.
    SS Bertha Lloyd's index 1872
    SS Bertha Lloyd's index 1872
    SS Bertha  Official Log Book 4 p 14
    SS Bertha Official Log Book 4 p 14
    SS Bertha  Official Log Book 4 cover Nov 1872
    SS Bertha Official Log Book 4 cover Nov 1872
    Bombay Mar '72 Virago
    Bombay Mar '72 Virago
    "The iron lighter No. 808---13, with 130 packages of cargo from the Virago (s), from London, .... and sank during the night of 10th mar., alongside the Custom's wharf, owing to a large stone having pierced her bottom; nearly all the cargo on board was very badly damaged."
     Bombay Mar '72 Virago
    Bombay Mar '72 Virago
    "Yesterday as the Virago (s), Turner, was completing her loading for Liverpool, it was found that the cargo in the after compartment, consisting of cotton, was on fire. After throwing a quantity of water down, the fire was extinguished. About 39 bales were damaged by water and 7 bales were more or less burnt. The vessel sustained no injury."
    Allan Wylie engineer certification 1
    Allan Wylie engineer certification 1
    8 Oct 1863
    SS Virago log p.11
    SS Virago log p.11
    SS Virago Lloyd's index 1872  i
    SS Virago Lloyd's index 1872 i
    SS Virago Log p 8
    SS Virago Log p 8
    SS Virago Crew agreement iv Aug 1871
    SS Virago Crew agreement iv Aug 1871
    SS Virago Crew agreement iii Aug 1871
    SS Virago Crew agreement iii Aug 1871
    SS Virago Crew agreement ii Aug 1871
    SS Virago Crew agreement ii Aug 1871
    SS Virago Lloyd's index 1872  ii
    SS Virago Lloyd's index 1872 ii
    SS Virago Crew agreement Aug 1871
    SS Virago Crew agreement Aug 1871
    SS Virago  Official Log Book 1 cover Dec 1871
    SS Virago Official Log Book 1 cover Dec 1871
    Allan Wylie engineer certification 2
    Allan Wylie engineer certification 2
    Details of his posts 1863-1867.
    ALLAN & ISABELLA WYLIE Marriage Certificate
    ALLAN & ISABELLA WYLIE Marriage Certificate
    In 1859 Isabella married Allan Wylie at her home in Glasgow on the same day as the registration of the birth of their first child, John Robertson Tannahill Wylie (he had been born at 8.00 am). At that time her address was recorded as 176 Kent Road, Glasgow where the marriage took place. Allan was working as an engineer. His address was 401 St Vincent Street.
    WHEN, WHERE & HOW MARRIED?
    "On the 28th day of April 1859 at 176 Kent Road, Glasgow, marriage (after banns) was solemnised between us according to the forms(?) of the Free Church of Scotland"
    Signed by Allan Carmichael Wylie
    Signed Isabella Coventry Robertson, her X mark.
    AGE: Allan 25, Isabella 24.
    OFFICIATING MINISTER: James Henderson, minister of Free St Enoch's
    WITNESSES: James ......, David Tannahill
    Allan Wylie 1841
    Allan Wylie 1841
    St James' Street Paisley High Church district, Glasgow,, Scotland
    Allan (7) was living with his family. His father Claud (36) was working as a smith and living with wife Janet (35) and other children Margaret (14), Margery (14), Janet (5), Jane (3) and Claud (1).
    Allan Wylie engineer certification 3
    Allan Wylie engineer certification 3
    Details of his posts 1867-72.
    Hugh & Jean Robertson 1861
    Hugh & Jean Robertson 1861
    Louis Street, ,Liverpool,Lancashire,England.
    Hugh and Jean were living with daughters Sarah (12) and Isabella (23), Isabella's husband, Allan, and her son, John (1). No record of other children.

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    23. [S250] Death certificate Isabella Coventry Robertson 1910, (copy from GRO) (Reliability: 3), 21 Feb 1910.

    24. 401, St Vincent Street, Glasgow